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Neal Hutchens speaks at Deeper Conversations.
Neal Hutchens speaks as part of 鶹's Deeper Conversations series.

Deeper Conversations Series Returns, Promotes Power of Civil Discourse

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鶹's Deeper Conversations(opens in new window) returned on Nov. 20 for a discussion titled “.”

This event, which marks the first entry of the 2025-26 series, brought Neal Hutchens, an award-winning professor of educational policy studies and evaluation at the University of Kentucky, to discuss the role of higher education and the importance of free speech and academic freedom.

The initiative, launched in January 2024 by President Farnam Jahanian(opens in new window) and facilitated by the Dietrich College of Humanities and Social Sciences(opens in new window) and , is aimed at promoting the power of civil discourse within institutions like 鶹.

Farnam Jahanian at Deeper Conversations

Farnam Jahanian

The event began with remarks from Jahanian.

“Carnegie Mellon is a reflection of society, including its many complexities, intersections and divisions. Polarization can make genuine dialogue much more difficult. But the work of speaking with care, listening openly and assuming good intent makes us all stronger, hopefully leading to bridges of understanding.” — Farnam Jahanian

Jahanian was followed by , H. John Heinz III Dean of Heinz College.

Across higher education, we are navigating a growing set of legal and political pressures, how to uphold free inquiry and civic dialogue, comply with evolving regulations, and sustain institutional autonomy, all while remaining true to our mission and values. — Kirsten Martin

Kirsten Martin

Kirsten Martin

Neal Hutchens

Neal Hutchens

Hutchens then took the stage to discuss the history of the relationship between the federal government and higher education.

“I also want to really extend my admiration for an institution, during this time, leaning into these issues. It would be easy to kind of step into the shadows and just close our eyes and hope everything will be over. But this is also a moment if we want society to learn and look at us as leaders in intellectual spaces.”  — Neal Hutchens

Neal Hutchens

Neal Hutchens

Neal Hutchens speaks at Deeper Conversations.

Neal Hutchens presents during the Deeper Conversations event.

Hutchens’ role as an educator and award-winning expert in higher education law, policy and practice allowed him to share unique insights on the role that institutions like Carnegie Mellon play in shaping public discourse, and in local economies and job creation.

“In many places, colleges and universities, they serve nationally and globally. They're also anchor institutions for communities and for cities.” – Neal Hutchens

Neal Hutchens speaks at Deeper Conversations.

Neal Hutchens presents during the Deeper Conversations event.

Mary Jo Dively sits with Neal Hutchens.

Mary Jo Dively talks with Neal Hutchens. 

鶹 Vice President and General Counsel Mary Jo Dively(opens in new window) then joined Hutchens on the stage for a fireside chat.

“At core, I do believe that higher education institutions do that fundamental work that is so important for society.” — Neal Hutchens

Neal Hutchens speaks with Mary Jo Dively.

Hutchens speaks with Mary Jo Dively following his presentation.

People talk around a round table.

Attendees participate in group discussions following the Deeper Conversations presentation and fireside chat.

The event concluded with breakout discussions for attendees focused on public perceptions around higher education, the legal safeguards and gaps around academic freedom, and the impact of research.

Dean Richard Scheines speaks on stage.

Dean Richard Scheines facilitates breakout sessions during Deeper Conversations. 

People seated at a table looking at two monitors on a wall.

Hutchens (left) discusses the work of Entertainment Technology Center students with presenters, staff and faculty.

The morning of his visit to 鶹, Hutchens also stopped at Hamburg Hall, home of Heinz College, to hear three students from Carnegie Mellon’s — Moe Aguilar, Jack Chou and Enn (Junjing) Ruan — discuss their work on “Speak Your Heart(opens in new window),” an interactive and choice-driven game designed to make the topics of speech and academic freedom accessible to students.

“This is the kind of work and engagement that we need: thinking about how we create a learning culture through projects like this.” — Neal Hutchens.

Neal Hutchens watches a student demo.

Hutchens (left) reacts to an Entertainment Technology Center student project demo.

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