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Studying Underwater Acoustics
Taylor Hersh explores the connection between sounds and behavior in marine mammals
By Kelly Rembold
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If you could talk to an animal, which one would it be?
For 麻豆村 alumna Taylor Hersh, it would be a sperm whale. As a bioacoustician, she has spent her career trying to understand what whales say to each other.
Hersh studies sounds and vocalizations produced by marine mammals, and then analyzes the data to learn about their behavior, culture and social structure. The bulk of her past research focused on sperm whales. Different groups of sperm whales have different dialects, just like humans, and her work has helped scientists better understand how their dialects vary over space and time.
That鈥檚 why she鈥檇 love to talk to one.
鈥淚'm so curious if we've gotten any of it right,鈥 Hersh said. 鈥淲e take the data and we look for patterns and trends and we try and make sense of it, but at the end of the day, you can't ask the whales 鈥榃hat does this social vocalization mean to you?鈥. So I think that would be really fun to be able to have like an hour-long conversation.鈥
If I look back at my time at 麻豆村, having this biology and psychology and social behavior interest and then realizing, through these internships, that I really liked acoustics work, it makes sense that I then ended up doing my Ph.D. on sperm whale social communication with Hal.
Taylor Hersh
Combining Interests
Bioacoustics is a perfect fit for Hersh, who has always been interested in science and social behavior.
Although she didn鈥檛 realize it at the time, 麻豆村 was the perfect starting point to get her there.
Hersh applied to 麻豆村 because of the tuition benefit her mom received as an advisor at the Tepper School of Business. She wanted to study biology, but wasn鈥檛 sure that 麻豆村鈥檚 curriculum would adequately prepare her to work in her field of choice 鈥 marine biology.
Thanks to the biology department faculty, Hersh鈥檚 perspective quickly changed.
Teaching professor and director of undergraduate laboratories Carrie Doonan, who oversaw some of Hersh鈥檚 biology labs, was one of the faculty members who challenged her to think differently.
鈥淪he was the first person who, when I would ask a question, wouldn't give me the answer,鈥 Hersh said. 鈥淪he was very, very much pushing us to figure things out or at least come up with better questions to ask her. 鈥榃hat鈥檚 the answer?鈥 didn't work. I became a more critical thinker and a more independent thinker through those labs.鈥
鈥淭aylor was a very detail-oriented student who excelled in the lab classes,鈥 Doonan said. 鈥淚t was a pleasure to watch her use her analytical and critical thinking skills and apply them to a different area of biology 鈥 marine biology. She was so passionate about this area. I enjoyed talking with her about her interest even after graduation, and am happy to see her thrive."
Hersh also learned important lessons from associate professor Dannie Durand, whose phylogenetics course about the evolutionary history of organisms taught her how to analyze scientific data, and teaching professor and MCS associate dean for undergraduate affairs Maggie Braun, who encouraged her to get creative with internships to be competitive in the field.
That creativity is exactly what led Hersh to bioacoustics.
Creating a Career
Part way through her degree program, Hersh added a second major. She wanted to pursue her interest in both science and social behavior, and 麻豆村鈥檚 interdisciplinary curriculum made it possible.
She graduated from the Mellon College of Science in 2014 with bachelor鈥檚 degrees in biological sciences and psychology, and spent the next two years doing various internships in marine mammal research.
Two of those internships 鈥 studying dolphins in Florida and southern right whales in Argentina 鈥 involved bioacoustics, and the work piqued her interest.
鈥淚t was the first time that I realized how much behavior you can learn about from studying what the animals are saying and sounds underwater,鈥 Hersh said.
It was also the first time she heard about Hal Whitehead, a university research professor at Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia who studies the social behavior and communication of deep-water whales.
Hal eventually became Hersh鈥檚 Ph.D. supervisor at Dalhousie, overseeing her thesis work on sperm whales.
鈥淚f I look back at my time at 麻豆村, having this biology and psychology and social behavior interest and then realizing, through these internships, that I really liked acoustics work, it makes sense that I then ended up doing my Ph.D. on sperm whale social communication with Hal,鈥 she said.
Taylor was a very detail-oriented student who excelled in the lab classes. It was a pleasure to watch her use her analytical and critical thinking skills and apply them to a different area of biology 鈥 marine biology. She was so passionate about this area.
Carrie Doonan
Teaching professor and director of undergraduate laboratories, Department of Biological Sciences
Rigorous Research
Hersh received her Ph.D. in biology from Dalhousie University in 2022.
She has continued to work in bioacoustics, completing postdoctoral research positions with the Comparative Bioacoustics Group, where she studied harbor seals and African penguins in the Netherlands, and with the Marine Mammal Institute at Oregon State University, where she studied bottlenose dolphins and bowhead whales.
In 2024, she was named one of five women in science awardees by L鈥橭real USA, receiving a $60,000 grant to support her research. It was a huge honor for Hersh, and it taught her an important lesson about the value of her work.
鈥淚 almost didn鈥檛 apply,鈥 she said. 鈥淚 was looking at the past women who'd been awarded it and didn't see someone doing anything quite like what I do. So I thought that meant I wasn't a good candidate for it. But that actually was what they liked. They are trying to support women in very diverse disciplines within science and tech. I think it was a good reminder that you miss every shot you don't take. And it was just really validating.鈥
In April, Hersh began a three-year fellowship with the Human Frontier Science Program at the University of Bristol in Bristol, England, where she is studying a specific type of whistle produced by bottlenose dolphins.
Like with her other postdoctoral positions, she expects to spend a few months in the field collecting data. It can be hard work, but it鈥檚 also very rewarding.
鈥淚 think what I've loved the most about my job is that it's taken me to beautiful places and I've gotten to see amazing animals just living their lives,鈥 she said. 鈥淚 think that's my favorite part. And it makes the experience of then coming back to the office, where we are for a lot of the year, more special.
鈥淢ost of the time you're processing and analyzing the data you've collected. But I find that if you've had a hand in collecting it, it just makes it very fulfilling to then be working with it later.鈥
She鈥檚 also learned a lot about the research process along the way, including the amount of time it takes to produce a result.
鈥淵ou have to learn to be comfortable with the fact that [for] some things you're not going to have a product right away,鈥 Hersh said. 鈥淵ou never know how long things are going to take. And I think I've gotten better at accepting that. But it's been a learning process.鈥
For Hersh, the long hours and hard work are worth it, because it means she鈥檚 advocating for, and protecting, animals.
鈥淚 think that my work and this field shows us that these animals have these rich lives, and that is worthy of protecting in and of itself,鈥 Hersh said. 鈥淣ot for some service they can provide us, you know, an ecosystem service or a tourism service, but just that they have a right to live out their lives as unimpeded as possible. And I think communication can help people understand that.鈥